Title | : | Opposing Views on the Role of Government and the Essence of Money (w/Michael Green \u0026 Peter Schiff) |
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I don’t think either one is the right answer Governments are notoriously inefficient and history repeatedly shows it gives into devaluation of currency I agree with Peter in that the less they are involved the better but at same time having credit creation pegged to some random metal doesn’t make sense either Comment from : Ali Borojerdi |
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Michael Green seems to want to deny basic historical reality not realizing that there was enormous available, usable land all over the world He also attributes American success in the late 19th and early 20th century to enormous human capital and yet is apparently oblivious to China and India of the same period which had vastly more human capital but were not even close to the US in productive success Comment from : mike b |
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The main difference in my view is that one system is honest(gold and Austrian economics) and the other (Keyensian fiat) is dishonest An ounce of gold is an ounce of gold, it can't be inflated without pulling more out of the earth Keyensian economics is a system designed specifically to be both dishonest and as collectivism as its ultimate goal Comment from : mike b |
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Barter is a Myth, Ppl did not do that before gold or money; Read or listen to David Graeber Economic Athropologist Who did the Real Research most Successful Period was FDR social Democracy which transformed the economy and introduced things like social security , strengthening unions etc Comment from : military forces TV |
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Mike Green thinks lending money to an entity that already owes over $30T is riskless? (imagine multiple Twitter's clown emojis) eheheheh Comment from : Rafael Graça Silva |
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Big government has its own agenda depending on which is in power and they do not just serve snd protect people but convert people to their own thinking Government needs to get small Comment from : Almost Nearly Sociable |
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Looking back at this video made in 2021 Peter was absolutely correct when he said prices are going to rise higher than you can believe Now in 2022 we see he was right We need the gold standard Michael will not admit the truth, probably for his own liberal control reasons Comment from : Almost Nearly Sociable |
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Mr Schiff is the man in that he stands for everything I believe in, especially with respect to the monetary system backed by nothing I am so sick of the power of government and its abuse Why people cannot see that is just incredible Just get the Fed and government out of the waybrMr Green is the type of person whose mindset got us into this mess in the first place, and they will not use common sense Comment from : Almost Nearly Sociable |
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What’s Michael have to say now????? Peter was absolutely correct! Comment from : Brandon Boand |
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Live peters view Comment from : Brandon Boand |
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Who is suffering at the expensive of your investments? Comment from : S J Boyer |
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I have no problem with government controlling the economy, as long as government isn't made up of fallible, corrupt, self serving, evil people Until then, I'll rely on the Free Market to decide winners and losers Comment from : joeashbubemma |
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I'm glad the gold in Ft Know is owned by the US Treasury and NOT the Federal Reserve I do think this gold needs to be audited as there are lots of concerns that much of this gold has been leased and sold If the US were to offer its gold for sale to help offset the debt this fiat system has produced, I would be a buyer Comment from : Ag Willie |
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We have NOT filled out most of our available land!! That is an insane comment 🤣😅🤣 Comment from : Spartan Marinelli 87 |
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This guy is talking about people coming here for land??? What a TOOL!!! Comment from : Spartan Marinelli 87 |
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People came here to be free!!! Comment from : Spartan Marinelli 87 |
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29:45 and 30:15 🤣 did you not listen to Peter? They defaulted on the mortgage and underwater already in the house They don't need a credit report if the bank will keep them as RENTERS BUT THEY WILL OWN NOTHING AND BE HAPPY! Courtesy of the WEF and USA INC Comment from : DIRGES in the DARK |
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You can't keep having this conversation with out addressing our treasonous govt with the UN and WEF and their depopulation program Comment from : DIRGES in the DARK |
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I’m amazed that guy said people didn’t come here because of freedom and new opportunities They sure left Europe and Russia and etc for those reasons Ffs that’s why we had a war with the Brit’s That guy must be a liberal can’t admit that Comment from : W J |
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“Google is free” “Google’s prices are so high because of interest rates” These two absurd statements tell you this guy is either an idiot or he’s BSing us Austrian economics tells us the simplistic answers we think we know so that poor people vote against their own self interest That is why this myth still exists Comment from : Elwood Bergman |
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Peter insight to the future = 5brGovernment = 0 Comment from : Relative Vie |
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Peter is right again inflation is right now year later at 86 and raising Comment from : manny mo |
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Watching over a year on and guess what ?! Peter got it right again inflation is out of control Comment from : mike allen |
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Intersecting to have found this conversation in June of 2022 I’m astonished that two deeply intelligent people can be so hilariously wrong about Bitcoin Comment from : Julian Blunt |
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Green: “People tend to think about [natural, free] evolution as progress That’s not correct Evolution is fitness within a regime And large entities have the capacity to capture regulators and capture a system and preserve a regime to which they are best suited, preventing the competition from coming in” Comment from : Mister Sir |
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Green is based Comment from : Mister Sir |
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1:15:44 Commercial banks don’t care about real rates, because loss of purchasing power due to inflation is on the books of depositors Meanwhile bond buyers can choose between negative real rate, or even more negative effect of inflation Comment from : Mister Sir |
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14:06 Not all land is equal Have you seen the Russian taiga? Meanwhile there was plenty of freedom in the other colonies, but that was in (sub-)tropical places, ie not the same land Comment from : Mister Sir |
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Peter won Comment from : Drew |
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Current inflation rates in the US tell us whose prediction was right Comment from : Fabian Bogg |
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Peter gets it… the other guy needs to study history Comment from : Cyrus |
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Ash is hands down the best moderator I've ever seen He gets far too little credit Comment from : Andrew G |
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Watching this a year after when it was posted and seems peter hit the nail on everything he predicted Comment from : Qey Shinkurt |
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I agree with Peter Mr Green speaks of not "abandoning" the system, but the prosperous system has already been abandoned to implement a dysfunctional system It's absolutely time to abandon the failing system Interesting debate Comment from : Brad Albone |
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It doesn’t make sense Why can’t you bring production back to America I would prefer to work in a factor than flip burgers Comment from : Lampkin דניאל |
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Doesn’t Peter look younger? Comment from : Lampkin דניאל |
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Peter was right! Comment from : stage274 |
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1 year later I’m watching this and I have to say Peter was right CUDOS !! Comment from : paulvaz1 |
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Peter is right except his stance on Bitcoin Comment from : Matt Verville |
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I think this is the definite debate/lecture about Austrian economics vs current monetary system I wish Mike would have been more assertive though, but Peter is a menacing debate opponent Comment from : Jussi |
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Peter was correct about the republic Biden is not president I hope to see military remove him from office Comment from : hansenleal |
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Just made mental note to never watch anything else with Peter Schiff in it Comment from : David Benson |
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"The reason why immigrants are coming is because they want to be on welfare" uhhhhhhhhhh no Peter lost after that Comment from : Alex Salazar |
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“The most terrifying words-“I’m from the government and I’m here to help” Ronald Reagan Comment from : Miguel Castillo |
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If you can teach a subject than you really know it! And the way Peter Schiff explains things so simply is amazing! He really really knows his stuff, smart man Comment from : David Londono |
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Interesting that Pete thinks the period when our working class often fought deadly battles against their union busting employers is an ideal to strive for What a fitting backdrop against which to set the utopian idealism of US libertarianism Comment from : Travis Fleury Lopez |
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Peter Schiff is like Bill Maher, but just in the opposite direction The 2 of them are like twins separated at birth And they're both exactly the same kind of idiots Comment from : theIdlecrane |
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This didn't age well for the professor 😅 Comment from : beaver6919 |
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Peter would be the world's biggest bitcoin bull if his entire ego, identity, and financial positions weren't centered around gold Bitcoin is going to crush gold Comment from : Raymond |
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Peter sounds logical and on point I appreciate Mike playing the contrarían point, but he seems somewhat lost Very few people are more knowledgeable about the economy than Peter Schiff and Marc Faber The current system is rigged Comment from : Jose Jose |
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I agree with Peter on everything here However he should buy some bitcoin also LOL (Bitcoin primarily, but perhaps SOME altcoins as well) Comment from : UrLeisure MyPleasure |
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Great video!! Comment from : Big Papi |
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🤔 Historically inaccurate? If people moved here for the land why did they move to cities? Why not go to the country? Peter is right, workers chose factories over farming because it was their best option Else, why would they do it! Comment from : Big Papi |
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I really liked the debate, they both had great points and I think we all win from it, they sharped each other skills and we get an all-around view of topics we didn't know about, I like Peter he interrupts too much, I'll keep watching his content though :) Comment from : Scott Pettingill |
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Peter educated this guy for an hour Comment from : Jaden Kutz |
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The dude in the white shirt is right, it is historically, inaccurate; but in reality spot on Man I don't know you but you lost all credibility in my irrelevant eyes Comment from : Dog Owner Guru |
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Isn’t this the guy who has been saying the dollar would collapse for decades? Hahaha… talk about way off the base ! Comment from : Howard Huang |
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Thank you Comment from : Paul Dockery |
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Once I stared skipping Shiff’s ideological circular thinking this was a worthwhile discussion to hear Thanks! Comment from : hitchh |
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The man debating Peter is a complete idiot Example of why America is doomed Thruuuuuuu Comment from : Enemyofthesheeple |
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Peter has been talking about a 50 drop in the Stockmarket for about 3 decade’s… over which time the S & P has gone up 1000brbrLook at the returns of Euro Pacific capital Comment from : Andre P |
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Inflation is already at 85 as of today How much higher should it go before this guy Michael Green acknowledge that Peter Schiff is correct in his analysis? Comment from : The Golden Loot |
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1:09:25 Schiff nailed itbrI dislike agreeing with Schiff instead of the crypto bro, because I am also a crypto bro, but I guess Im more of a libertarian anarcho capitalist than than I am a crypto brobrIt makes me cringe every time Mike Green suggests more government intervention is the answer Comment from : Commander Corn 🇺🇸 |
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The truth lies somewhere between Michael Green and Peter Schiff Comment from : Rizky06 |
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Wot's thw End Game, as far as Fed/Govt plan? To own (thru their financial intrests eg Blackrock, Vanguard, major banks and B Gates) all property, land, farming land, redundant commercial properties and impecunious individuals So that they have total control to implement their Agenda Comment from : Interstitial |
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I Love Peter Schiff Mr Schiff has made me a Wealthy Man (with the knowledge he freely gave me through his Podcasts over the years) Comment from : Roberto Lopez |
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No to Peter Schiff Comment from : Patrick Wears |
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Hey Mike! You got to admit Peter’s predictions has been very reliable since the pandemic Comment from : ricardo |
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PETER SMOKED HIM Comment from : Ari Michael |
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My gosh Green is so wrong on everything I learned in elementary school I cannot watch more He does not know that Pasteur was long dead before viruses were discovered The worst part is he has not even gotten to the MMT stuff and he is already exposed as an intellectual fraud Comment from : Joseph Kramer |
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Does this guy not know about Singapore or Hong Kong freedom is always the key ingredient brbrI wonder if maybe rhe guy in the white shirt is chosen people? Comment from : ezzy1147 |
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It's clear that Peter takes no issues with monopolies given his habit of monopolizing the conversation; he just can't help himself 😅 Comment from : JP Fontes |
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Peter, sounds like he’s on a mindless rant at times Comment from : audacityknight |
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GERALD CELENTE Of the Trends Research Comment from : CON-GRESS SUCKS |
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Yeh but the children you are educating are all choosing easy worthless liberal arts subjects Comment from : Stanthemilkman |
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No government ? Cool, sell me nuclear power🤠 Comment from : Ira Lujan |
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Its rioting time! (Either way!)brbr--a view from the bottombrbrThough if we start reverting back to the 19th century its outright WAR Comment from : Matt Brown |
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Having mostly only heard Peter's thoughts on crypto, where I'm mostly opposed to his views I'm surprised to find that I agree with quite a majority of Peter Schiff's stances on government policies Great debate! Comment from : Joshua Leong |
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bOTH COMMENTATORS IDEAS ON WHY EUROPEANS EMMIGRATED ARE WRONG mY FAMILIES ANCESTTRY RESEARCH SHOWS THEY WERE ESCAPING FAMMINES IN 1840S AND 1850S LAND AND JOBS WERE A BONUS Pus the men were escaping conscription Comment from : Celeste |
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"Russia had land" is so ignorant Russia is a majority frozen most the year 🤷♂️ Comment from : Steven Snider |
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You are smug and dismissive w/out even knowing it Mr Schiff was not giving you kernels of truth he was giving you the big picture using gold nuggets of truth I have long since learned to ignore his abrasive manner in order to absorb his truth Comment from : lance mairs |
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I'm a fan of Mike Green and his way is thinking Not so much of Peter and I don't like how he often cuts the other off You can see Mike's frustration with this trait Peter claims he's okay with free-market monopolies, and he also likes to monopolizer the discourse Comment from : HoroRH |
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I agree with Peter here Bitcoin, gold, and silver need to be the country’s currency 👍🏼 Comment from : emeraldcitydreamz |
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Future is here Schiff was right; inflation wasn't transitory Mmt guy is acting as if inflation doesn't cause a loss in purchasing power Comment from : Timothy Woitte |
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Regulation leads to and allows for corruption Less government simplifies the playing field and keeps bad actors from manipulating systems Comment from : Timothy Woitte |
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End the FED Comment from : Timothy Woitte |
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We have better living standards now so let the printers run loose What a joke Who's pocket is this mmt guy in? He's not speaking objectively and certainly not on behalf of we the people The government serves we the people not the other way around Less government Get rid of the Senate and reps let the people vote directly on individual bills We have the internet and really no longer need the political aristocratic class of thieves and deceivers Comment from : Timothy Woitte |
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Cheers to Mr Schiff Liberty brought people to America Comment from : Timothy Woitte |
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Excellent debateI would say that Peter did an excellent job of representing the ideology that crypto ppl have but just using Goldbtw in not sure which point of view is more correct Comment from : Caribbean Crypto Tips |
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On long term balance I can see that Peter’s overall opinion is the best way to do things! Comment from : Ken Ebanks |
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Peter Schiff! YES YES YES! Comment from : Ken Ebanks |
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I’m in the UK, but if I were American I’d definitely vote for Peter Schiff The whole world needs people like him to lead world governments! Comment from : Ken Ebanks |
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Ive watched this twice: It occurs to me that these two set up a dialectic between government and corporations/individuals They BOTH fail to expose that the corporations have taken over the government We live in a plutocracy And until this is ended by definition and by law (regulated), we will never recover Chronos will continue to eat his children The serpent his tail Comment from : Joshua Vander Plaats |
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Thanks Liam! Comment from : Joshua Vander Plaats |
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This is a perfect demonstration of how pathetic Peter is He has created this historically adjacent narrative to push his own products He cherry picks whatever he wants to validate his narrative in a vacuum Any comparison between the 1800s and modern day is strictly laughable in the context he used Comment from : Steven H3 |
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Hmmmmm Some of this sounds awfully familiar to me on this day Must be a coincidence Comment from : Scott Fletcher |
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Peter Schiff clearly won the argument Comment from : bruce pennycook |
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Michael Green: I agree but…… Comment from : JAre Mansa |
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